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Havering Council responds to residents’ complaints over no right turn at Hornchurch Lidl

PUBLISHED: 07:00 02 July 2018 | UPDATED: 15:02 02 July 2018

The signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering Council

The signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering Council

Havering Council

Havering Council has responded to claims that a no right turn sign outside of Lidl in Hornchurch doesn’t comply with regulations.

Hundreds of drivers have been fined for turning right into the Lidl at Hornchurch. Photo: Ken MearsHundreds of drivers have been fined for turning right into the Lidl at Hornchurch. Photo: Ken Mears

Following a number of complaints from residents, and a number of drivers appealing fines that they received the council has said the banned right turn is in accordance with regulations.

The Recorder revealed that more than 700 drivers had been given Parking Charge Notices (PCN) in less than a month.

The council has said that it had previously consulted on the proposal to introduce a no right turn rule, and that it had a positive response.

Forty-seven drivers were given warnings from the council at the turn in High Street a week before it went live.

The signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering CouncilThe signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering Council

And since then 701 drivers have been given fines for £130 - which if paid within two weeks will be reduced to £65.

If every fine that was handed out wasn’t paid within 14 days it would amount to £91,130 - however if every fine handed out was paid within two weeks of it being received it adds up to £45,565.

Between the 29 days that the Recorder has information for, overall 701 fines were issued, which is roughly 24 fines a day, which is on average one an hour - this does not take into account the fact that the store is not open 24 hours a day.

Lots of Recorder readers took to Facebook to criticise the signs at the junction.

The signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering CouncilThe signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering Council

Leana Jess said: “Why didn’t they just put in a yellow box junction to keep it clear?

“So any cars that wish too turn right can do so, and cars that want to come out - left only!

“It’s not that hard. Their signage right on the junction isn’t adequate enough and ahead only in the road right at the junction is also not good enough. “Pre-warning no right and ahead only should be in place, most drivers on that approach are already looking ahead for where they are going and wouldn’t be focusing on the floor or on a lamp post that close to the junction.”

One reader, who receieved a fine from the council and wished to remain anonymous said: “I would like to point out that I was driving behind a bus the entire length of the high street which blocked out any erected signs.

The signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering CouncilThe signs for the no right turn outside of Lidl in Hornchurch. Photo: Havering Council

“I am a most diligent driver and this has been my first trip to this supermarket.

“I have however been a Hornchurch resident for ten years and have previously parked in the bingo car park on many an occasion with ease.

“I confirm that I was most attentive upon my approach and would not have turned right had I seen said signs as it was never my intention to shop their.

“I returned to investigate the scene after receiving my fine and can confirm that the signs which have been erected are not positioned clearly when immediately travelling behind a large vehicle and I strongly feel that the council haven’t taken such vehicles into account with signage at this juncture.

The no right turn sign at Lidl in Hornchurch.The no right turn sign at Lidl in Hornchurch.

“I believe that the council need to reposition said signage and void all 701 fines with immediate effect.

“Furthermore, until said camera signage has been repositioned, only warning letters should be issued.

Other readers said that the sign and road markings were clear enough.

Peter Birch said: “If the six foot ahead only sign and the no right turn sign, is not clear enough, Maybe you should be going to SpecSavers not Lidl.”

Councillor Osman Dervish, Cabinet Member for Environment said: “When we consulted on this development we had a positive response to the proposal to impose a ‘no right turn’ at that location.

“The council did give warning notices for this location a week before it went live and issued 47 warnings.

“We do not have to issue warning notices on banned turns because they are deemed dangerous and can be enforced immediately, but we chose to give some notice at this location.

“This banned right turn is compliant with signage regulations and there is notification in the form of signs and road markings warning drivers of the restriction before and at the location.”

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